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			<title>Compressing the sparse image file ...</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:19:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
 
Every time a SD backup is made to a sparse image file, the file increases in size.  I would like to automate this procedure by executing a shell script at the end of my backup. 
 
I wrote a regular AppleScript that works well.  Can somebody help me convert this script in SS language: 
 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
<br />
Every time a SD backup is made to a sparse image file, the file increases in size.  I would like to automate this procedure by executing a shell script at the end of my backup.<br />
<br />
I wrote a regular AppleScript that works well.  Can somebody help me convert this script in SS language:<br />
<br />
<br />
<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px">
	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Code:</div>
	<hr /><code style="margin:0px" dir="ltr" style="text-align:left">property imagesPathList : {&quot;/Sauvegardes/SuperDuper/Duplication - iMacG5.sparseimage&quot;}<br />
<br />
tell application &quot;Caffeine&quot;<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; turn on<br />
end tell<br />
<br />
repeat with i in imagesPathList<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; set filePath to i<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; try<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; do shell script &quot;hdiutil compact &quot; &amp; quoted form of filePath<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; end try<br />
end repeat<br />
<br />
tell application &quot;Caffeine&quot;<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; turn off<br />
end tell</code><hr />
</div>Regards.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Robert Lespérance<br />
<br />
<br />
P.S.  Caffeine is an utility that can reset the system's idletime periodically, preventing the computer of going to sleep.  I suspect that the shell script will not need these statements because SD does that already.</div>

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			<dc:creator>rlesperance</dc:creator>
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			<title>What is UnmountAssistant?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 14:46:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have a backup regimen that uses Time Machine for versioned backups, SuperDuper for a weekly bootable duplicate of my entire hard drive, and Carbonite for offsite storage of my most important stuff. This is setup for my Mac mini (Mid 2010). 
 
The Time Machine and SuperDuper backups reside on a...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have a backup regimen that uses Time Machine for versioned backups, SuperDuper for a weekly bootable duplicate of my entire hard drive, and Carbonite for offsite storage of my most important stuff. This is setup for my Mac mini (Mid 2010).<br />
<br />
The Time Machine and SuperDuper backups reside on a 1TB external hard drive that has 3 partitions: one for Time Machine hourly backups, one for SuperDuper weekly backups, and another, very small, partition that has a duplicate of my Mac OS X Install DVD (which is needed if I want to restore from Time Machine). The external hard drive is connected to the Mac via USB.<br />
<br />
I wanted this backup regimen to be as automated as possible. With Time Machine and Carbonite the automation is a no-brainer. The automation with SuperDuper is also pretty simple by using the built-in scheduler. My problem was that I didn’t want to have the SuperDuper partition normally mounted. (I don’t normally keep the Mac OS X Install DVD partition mounted either). What I needed was a way to mount the SuperDuper partition before the SuperDuper schedule activated its weekly backup.<br />
<br />
I found an applescript that mounts a volume on Dae’s blog...<br />
<br />
<a href="http://dae.cyberic.eu/blog/applescript-to-mount-unmount-a-drive/" target="_blank">http://dae.cyberic.eu/blog/applescri...mount-a-drive/</a><br />
<br />
...that I modified slightly to fit my needs. (I inserted my volume’s name into the myVolumeLabel variable, and commented out the “else” branch that unmounts a drive.) After compiling the modified script and making sure that it worked the way I wanted, I saved it as an application to my...<br />
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/etc/periodic/weekly<br />
<br />
...folder. Next, I inspected the...<br />
<br />
/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.periodic-weekly.plist<br />
<br />
...file with BBEdit to see when weekly scripts are normally run by the operating system. I used that time, plus 5 minutes, as the scheduled time for my weekly SuperDuper backup.<br />
<br />
I have run this setup now for a couple of weeks and it works great but, there is one part of the setup that has taken on a life of its own: after the SuperDuper backup completes the volume is automatically unmounted by something that is apparently part of the operating system (since I commented out the part of the script that unmounts the drive).<br />
<br />
I looked in the SupeDuper log and noted the time that my most recent backup completed. Next, using Console.app, under Diagnostic and Usage Information =&gt; Diagnostic and Usage Messages, I searched for the word “unmount” and found an entry for UnmountAssistant with a timestamp about 10 seconds after the SuperDuper backup completed. I found the same thing last week when I first tried out this setup.<br />
<br />
I consider this “unintended unmounting” of a volume a good thing but, I’m still curious. What is UnmountAssistant and what invokes it after my weekly SuperDuper backup completes? Any thoughts?</div>

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			<dc:creator>ctucker10</dc:creator>
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			<title>Script Malfunction</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 01:01:45 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The problem I'm having is on a Mac Mini, 2.53 GHZ, dual core with 4 GB's of memory. Backup is to a 320 GB partition on a Firewire 800 drive. At 9:30 every evening that the system is up the Backup partition mounts, a smart update is performed and Superduper is supposed to quit. Instead, the computer...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The problem I'm having is on a Mac Mini, 2.53 GHZ, dual core with 4 GB's of memory. Backup is to a 320 GB partition on a Firewire 800 drive. At 9:30 every evening that the system is up the Backup partition mounts, a smart update is performed and Superduper is supposed to quit. Instead, the computer shuts down. I have only one script running and I can find no external scripts that might be interfering. I have tried deleting the script and reestablishing it, but I get the same results. I'm running under OS 10.6.4 and Superduper is the latest version, 2.6.2. I'm sure the resolution to the issue will be painfully obvious, but I just can't see the forest for the trees. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.<br />
<br />
Graylin</div>

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			<dc:creator>ggrissett</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[SD & VmWare WinXP application]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:01:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[sorry if I posted this before - can't find the original thread so I'll start again. 
 
:confused: 
 
 
Where in SD log can I find my VmWare - WinXP - Quicken data files?  They should be in a QDF file somewhere in the SD log) ?  
 
 I know that VmWare folder and Quicken is copied as I've used it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>sorry if I posted this before - can't find the original thread so I'll start again.<br />
<br />
:confused:<br />
<br />
<br />
Where in SD log can I find my VmWare - WinXP - Quicken data files?  They should be in a QDF file somewhere in the SD log) ? <br />
<br />
 I know that VmWare folder and Quicken is copied as I've used it several times on a re-boot from my SD clone.  However, I can't seem to locate the VmWare Win XP Quicken data files which ARE on and ARE copied in the SD backup clone.<br />
<br />
Any directions that I've missed?</div>

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			<dc:creator>tuni</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[SD & VmWare WinXP application]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:09:59 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I know that SD copies my (VmWare) WindowsXP Quicken data  - have rebooted several times and am able to access it with no problem.  In checking the SD logs however, I can not find the path to the Quicken data in the SD log of my cloned backup. 
 
Where would it be???? 
 
Thx for any help</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I know that SD copies my (VmWare) WindowsXP Quicken data  - have rebooted several times and am able to access it with no problem.  In checking the SD logs however, I can not find the path to the Quicken data in the SD log of my cloned backup.<br />
<br />
Where would it be????<br />
<br />
Thx for any help</div>

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			<dc:creator>tuni</dc:creator>
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			<title>SD giving me odd error message</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:36:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, 
 
I'm trying to do a complete file backup on a new disc. However, I'm getting this error message Disk image "/Volumes/My Book Vol.1/Music Programs Backup.sparseimage" is not writable or the path is invalid. 
 
First, the name of the backup drive is The Way Back Machine and SD finds it with no...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
<br />
I'm trying to do a complete file backup on a new disc. However, I'm getting this error message <i>Disk image &quot;/Volumes/My Book Vol.1/Music Programs Backup.sparseimage&quot; is not writable or the path is invalid.</i><br />
<br />
First, the name of the backup drive is The Way Back Machine and SD finds it with no problem. I've tried re-partitioning the drive as well as repairing permissions on the drive I want to copy but I still get the same message. <br />
<br />
Second, the &quot;What's going to happen&quot; script tells me that, after the copy is finished, a restorable image of The Way Back Machine will be saved as Music Programs Backup.sparesimage. Why the different name? Thanks John</div>

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			<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
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			<title>Out-of-date log</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:24:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Dave... 
Haven't written in a long time because SD is working Super! But...noticed after back-up today that SD is still displaying the log from July 27th; I've backed up many times since then. I restarted my Mac just now to see if I could get today's log to show up, and no joy. Any idea what's...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi Dave...<br />
Haven't written in a long time because SD is working Super! But...noticed after back-up today that SD is still displaying the log from July 27th; I've backed up many times since then. I restarted my Mac just now to see if I could get today's log to show up, and no joy. Any idea what's wrong??  Should I even be concerned?<br />
<br />
Lea</div>

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			<dc:creator>Circe525</dc:creator>
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			<title>Littlesnitch alert when superduper starts</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:39:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Just recently I have noticed Little Snitch popping up with a slightly ominous looking request for automountd to connect with fakehome.dat and just realised it is showing up a couple seconds before scheduled SuperDuper! backups. Does anybody know what this is about?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just recently I have noticed Little Snitch popping up with a slightly ominous looking request for automountd to connect with fakehome.dat and just realised it is showing up a couple seconds before scheduled SuperDuper! backups. Does anybody know what this is about?</div>

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			<dc:creator>ashleykaryl</dc:creator>
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			<title>backing up 2 drives</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:56:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi checked out the other topics on this but couldn't fine one that fit it just right so I'm wondering if I  can do this. 
 
I have a large external drive which I back up my main hard drive to,  but have enough room on it where I could utilize it to  back a spare sata internal drive where I keep all...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi checked out the other topics on this but couldn't fine one that fit it just right so I'm wondering if I  can do this.<br />
<br />
I have a large external drive which I back up my main hard drive to,  but have enough room on it where I could utilize it to  back a spare sata internal drive where I keep all of my photos.<br />
<br />
Is there a right and  wrong way to accomplish this apart from just dragging the photos over there.<br />
<br />
I'm using a MacPro Intel running Snow Leopard <br />
Thanks</div>

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			<dc:creator>daleslad</dc:creator>
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			<title>How to secure the backup files?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:06:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am finally at that point where I have a plan and the hardware to have an offsite backup. One thing that has always bothered me about having a clone on a separate portable drive is the possibility of losing that drive. Is there a good method for making the drive's contents inaccessible unless you...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am finally at that point where I have a plan and the hardware to have an offsite backup. One thing that has always bothered me about having a clone on a separate portable drive is the possibility of losing that drive. Is there a good method for making the drive's contents inaccessible unless you have a password?</div>

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			<dc:creator>macgenie</dc:creator>
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			<title>smart update(d) file list?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:45:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Is there a way to get a log of the specific files that were changed in the backup during smart update? 
 
I am noticing that I run SD several times in a row, a few minutes apart and its reporting that ~500MB got copied each time.  Somehow I doubt 500MB of files changed in 2 minutes between runs.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Is there a way to get a log of the specific files that were changed in the backup during smart update?<br />
<br />
I am noticing that I run SD several times in a row, a few minutes apart and its reporting that ~500MB got copied each time.  Somehow I doubt 500MB of files changed in 2 minutes between runs.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Dewdman42</dc:creator>
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			<title>unmount before script?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:51:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Is it possible to tell SD to unmount the sparsebundle before executing the final shell script?  If not, is it ok for the shell script to unmount it?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Is it possible to tell SD to unmount the sparsebundle before executing the final shell script?  If not, is it ok for the shell script to unmount it?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Dewdman42</dc:creator>
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			<title>more ignore reccomendations</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:21:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm trying to trim down the size of my SD backup a bit.  One thing I ignored is my IMAP mail cache: 
 
   /Users/xxx/Library/Mail/IMAP-xxx@yyy.com/ 
 
There is really no need to include it, it gets big and if I have to restore, all my  mail is on the IMAP server anyway. 
 
Looking for some other...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm trying to trim down the size of my SD backup a bit.  One thing I ignored is my IMAP mail cache:<br />
<br />
   /Users/xxx/Library/Mail/IMAP-xxx@yyy.com/<br />
<br />
There is really no need to include it, it gets big and if I have to restore, all my  mail is on the IMAP server anyway.<br />
<br />
Looking for some other things to exclude.  I know the default backup all script already excludes quite a few OS related files, but I'm thinking perhaps there are some more that could easily be excluded and want to hear comments or warnings from you guys about some or suggestions for others:<br />
<br />
  ~/Library/Caches/<br />
  /Library/Caches/<br />
  /System/Library/Caches<br />
<br />
What about temp files and particularly spotlight files?  I'd like to make sure they are excluded as well.  where are they?<br />
<br />
Anything else you can think of of significant size?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Dewdman42</dc:creator>
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			<title>Backup Plan Reccomendations</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:56:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I wanted to ask for reccomendations from you all about how I should setup my backup strategy, part of which involves SD and part of which does not.  I welcome all comments. 
 
1 - I have a RAIDed Samba server (running windows).  Most of my critical data files end up getting stored there one way or...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I wanted to ask for reccomendations from you all about how I should setup my backup strategy, part of which involves SD and part of which does not.  I welcome all comments.<br />
<br />
1 - I have a RAIDed Samba server (running windows).  Most of my critical data files end up getting stored there one way or another.  The machine is only used for file service, web service, FTP server, etc.  The C drive is not raided, only a seperate data drive.<br />
<br />
2 - I have subscribed to Jungle Disk online backup.  They provide software for Win, OSX, Linux, but presently I'm only using it to backup my Samba server, and only certain critical dirs of the raid are backed up.<br />
<br />
3 - I have a ghost image of my Samba Server.  This image is not updated regularly.  The setup of that machine does not change often.  I can probably go back to that image state at anytime and mostly be fine.  There is one copy of that image on JungleDisk cloud.<br />
<br />
4 - I have Jungle Disk also backing up certain configuration dirs on that samba file server, apache configs, ftp configs, etc.. so that if I have to restore it from the image, I can also restore the last nights configs and have machine working again.  I'm careful not to put any other user data onto the C drive of that machine, all user data goes on the previously mentioned Raid array.<br />
<br />
HERE IS WHERE IT GETS MORE INTERSTING<br />
<br />
5 - I have two macs.  They each have at least two partitions on them or disks.  Each night SD runs full backup to sparse bundle.  I need to put those sparse bundles onto both the samba raid, as well as the online cloud. But I want to minimize the amount of uploading to that cloud.  I could just use the cloud service to backup my macs and forget about SD, but I like the idea of having them first backed up to RAID so I can restore very quickly.  Actually they are first backed up to 2nd partition or drive on same machine on the same machine, then I copy the sparse bundle to the samba raid, then at night the cloud software uploads the changes in the sparse bundle to the online service.<br />
<br />
However, I'm concerned about minimizing the amount of network traffic to the cloud service.  <br />
<br />
When I copy the sparse bundle from the local partition to the samba, I use cp -p to make sure permissions and dates are preserved, so that the online backup software will incrementally transfer less stuff (hopefully).<br />
<br />
I could optionally run Jungle Disk on the mac and use it only for uploading the sparse bundle created by SD to the online service.  However, I prefer ot have that done from my samba server so that my macs are left free from that task, which can be long running.<br />
<br />
I also have checkpoint imgs of my macs saved on the raid and online, from certain points in the past when the machine was extremely stable and clean.  However in order to restore to those, I need backups of just my user data, so each night I save that as well into ~/Backup and that can be copied to Raid and later to Jungle, or direct to Jungle.  That includes stuff like Daylite DB backup, iCal export, AddrBook backup, bookmarks, etc.<br />
<br />
(deep breath)<br />
<br />
Ok, comments please, I welcome any and all suggestions about how to best integrate Mac+sambaraid+online service, using SD, the goal being to both offload as much backup work to the samba server as possible as well as ensure the most redundancy and the ability to quickly restore if and when I need to.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Dewdman42</dc:creator>
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			<title>Script</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:13:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello Dave, 
 
I have 4 users accounts on a machine: A, B, C and D. I want to backup only the picture folder of user A, nothing else. 
 
I have started with: 
Backup - user files.dst 
 
and then under script commands: 
ignore Users/A 
ignore Users/B</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello Dave,<br />
<br />
I have 4 users accounts on a machine: A, B, C and D. I want to backup only the picture folder of user A, nothing else.<br />
<br />
I have started with:<br />
Backup - user files.dst<br />
<br />
and then under script commands:<br />
ignore Users/A<br />
ignore Users/B<br />
ignore Users/C<br />
ignore Users/D<br />
copy Users/A/Pictures<br />
<br />
do I have to add also<br />
<br />
ignore Users/Shared and<br />
ignore Users/.localized<br />
<br />
What are the 2 above anyway?<br />
<br />
Thank you in advance<br />
<br />
Siegfried</div>

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