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Old 11-07-2007, 11:53 PM
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We're working on it -- testing and tweaking. We want it to be right, so we can't rush it out the door...
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:52 AM
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and right so...

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We're working on it -- testing and tweaking. We want it to be right, so we can't rush it out the door...
i too waiting in line for the update, but i absolutely wish it to be safe. I have other backup-utils who claim they were "Leopard-Ready", if you look at there forums, they're not....

I would even recommend to dnanian to wait for the pending release of 10.5.1 to make sure that it will REALLY work and that we can be sure that our backups are what they need to be: Something we can blindly depend on...

I tried Leo's Time-Machine, but it's not the way i work, so i will set the switch to "OFF" the moment i can get a Leo-compatible SD-Version and get back "in-control" and do backups the way i want it to be, not the way apple wants it for me...

As long as there is no working SD-Version Time Machine is a good interim-solution, no need to hurry...

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Old 11-08-2007, 02:06 PM
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Dave, can you PLEASE at least tell us if you're making good progress on a Leopard version on SD?

I'm VERY EXCITED of getting SD for Leopard!!!!!!

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Old 11-08-2007, 02:59 PM
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I agree with getting it right. SuperDuper has just saved me with my attempts at Leopard installation.

I did a complete back-up of my pre-Leopard main drive. Then I installed Leopard and had many of the problems that others have reported -- blue screens, applications freeze, etc -- basically, a PC experience on the Mac. I worked on it for a while but it never became stable.

So I just booted to my back-up drive, copied that version back over my main drive, and now I'm back up and happily running a stable 10.4.x OS. I'm waiting for a stable Leopard version before I try that again.

SuperDuper saved me a lot of pain and agony -- and it was fairly simple. I'm back to enjoying my Mac again. Others can suffer with the early Leopard bugs, I'll wait it out.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:05 PM
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Ready when?

The minor little points that you guys seem to be taking so long to get right are the things that make restores from an SD backup work so well. In theory, you can boot from the Leopard DVD and restore from a TimeMachine backup. But with all the weird little problems with Leopard, who'd feel all that safe relying on TimeMachine? I'm using Carbon Copy Cloner for now, and it does boot the new cloned drive all right, but I wonder if there'll be some odd directory permission issue popping up when I use it for a while.

I'd just as soon wait for SD to get done right.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:44 PM
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We're making good progress, Steve & everyone. But, as I've said (over and over and over), we're taking our time to make sure it's right. It's something we've always done -- it's one of the reasons why you like us.

I'm sorry that we didn't have the final Leopard build weeks early so we could finish things up before it came out, but we didn't -- we're going as fast as we can safely go. Patience!
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:55 PM
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We're making good progress, Steve & everyone. But, as I've said (over and over and over), we're taking our time to make sure it's right. It's something we've always done -- it's one of the reasons why you like us.

I'm sorry that we didn't have the final Leopard build weeks early so we could finish things up before it came out, but we didn't -- we're going as fast as we can safely go. Patience!
That's good news! Thank you Dave.

It's not your fault if Apple didn't release their GM build of Leopard to their developers before they released it to the public.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:59 PM
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We're making good progress, Steve & everyone. But, as I've said (over and over and over), we're taking our time to make sure it's right. It's something we've always done -- it's one of the reasons why you like us.

I'm sorry that we didn't have the final Leopard build weeks early so we could finish things up before it came out, but we didn't -- we're going as fast as we can safely go. Patience!
I've installed Leopard AND backed up (over my old backup) using SD! and just now discovered that it isn't considered ready. Help!! What should I do in the meantime until SD! is ready?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:14 PM
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Well, did it work?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:30 PM
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It made a copy, and data files seem fine, but there are some strange added folder aliases: "var," "tmp," "etc"
Needless to say I'm not going to risk "testing" it to see if it makes a good bootable copy.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:58 PM
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It "sorta" worked for me, but ...

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Well, did it work?
I did a backup from Leopard so that I could install the 10.5.1 update, and I did not realize that SuperDuper was not "Leopard-ready". It seemed to have backed up all the data files and applications, and the backup drive has almost the same amount of space used as the original. I booted from the backup and that worked, but some issues were immediately obvious: My desktop and dock preferences were not maintained. Instead they were the default values and the dock had only the default items in it - not the large number of applications and folders that were in my original, and not on the left side of my screen. I suspect that I could restore from this backup if necessary, but clearly some of the preferences are not being properly saved so I will hold off on my update to 10.5.1 until I know for sure that I have a backup I can trust.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:07 AM
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We're making good progress, Steve & everyone. But, as I've said (over and over and over), we're taking our time to make sure it's right. It's something we've always done -- it's one of the reasons why you like us.
But the main reason I like you is because superduper! backs up my mac, or at least it use to.

I love superduper, don't get me wrong. I appreciate your hard work. But it's going on 3 weeks now and I haven't been able to back up my mac. I hope an update is coming soon. Yes, I want it done right, but the amount of time that is acceptable to wait is coming to an end in my opinion.

I don't want to use time machine, or another backup application. I chose superduper!, and paid money for superduper! because that's the application I wanted to use. In all due respect, I hope I get to use it again very soon.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:56 AM
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"Yes, I want it done right, but the amount of time that is acceptable to wait is coming to an end in my opinion."

The word "but" negates the previously stated. Lets see if we can thing of something that was rushed to market not ready. VISTA, LEOPA..
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:07 AM
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The word "but" negates the previously stated. Lets see if we can thing of something that was rushed to market not ready. VISTA, LEOPA..
No it doesn't. In fact, I'd say the opposite. The fact that it has to be done right doesn't mean that any time frame is acceptable. There's a time limit (a month? 2 months?) when "got to do it right" doesn't cut it. I'm simply saying that in my opinion that time is coming. I hope to see it out in the next week. If it's going to be much longer I feel we should be told as much.

(and leopard has been wonderfully perfect for me, so maybe they rushed yours and not mine)
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:59 PM
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I love superduper, don't get me wrong. I appreciate your hard work. But it's going on 3 weeks now and I haven't been able to back up my mac. I hope an update is coming soon. Yes, I want it done right, but the amount of time that is acceptable to wait is coming to an end in my opinion.

I don't want to use time machine, or another backup application. I chose superduper!, and paid money for superduper! because that's the application I wanted to use. In all due respect, I hope I get to use it again very soon.
And you were forced to upgraded to Leopard at gunpoint by who???

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