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Old 05-12-2005, 06:08 PM
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Well, we can only do so much here, Steve, given the variations in hardware and software present on the Macintosh. I don't think we deserve your anger, however.
I'm with you, the anger is directed at the situation only...

I thought I made it clear the problem seemed not to be SuperDuper here!

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Old 05-12-2005, 06:13 PM
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No problem... good luck running it down.

If you test against FireWire, make sure your FireWire drive is boot-supported too. Some aren't -- most recent LaCie, OWC and WiebeTech are (though always make sure you have the most recent firmware)...
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:09 PM
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The backup copy starts up on firewire in OS X with no problems... but doesn't startup in OS 9.

This is probably also a hardware limitation, with OS 9 and my Mac.

here's apple technote relating to hard drives- it's hard to find unless you know it exists. the other info about startup and workarounds is scattered in different places (such as peripheral vendor support pages, etc.)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86178
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:15 PM
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Amazing that it wasn't that long ago, Steve. The MDD G4's were the last of that line. Wow...

Anyway, thanks. Glad it came up OK on FireWire!
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Old 05-13-2005, 03:28 AM
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OS X: after starting up the backup copy (250GB) on firewire, I moved it back to the ATA card, and it now starts up correctly there, as well!

OS 9: the backup copy still will not boot in OS 9 on firewire or the ATA card. DiskWarrior 3.0.3 reports that there is no blessed System Folder. Although DiskWarrior prompts to assign blessed folder, it does not solve the problem. However, when the disk is mounted in 9, the System Folder displays the icon indicating that it is blessed. There may be a problem with DiskWarrior here, also.


Note: When the backup copy is copied to another disk (120GB, not 250GB), the new copy behaves normally and boots in OS X or OS 9 with no problems. (The new copy was made after the backup copy was booted on firewire, however.)

These issues may still be somewhat hardware-specific due to using a large drive, but the OS X anomalies seem to indicate there are other problems that may still be SuperDuper-related, as far as having a good copy which is capable of booting up normally in OS X.
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Old 05-13-2005, 10:05 AM
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We're not aware of any problems in this area. It's possible that your kernel extension cache -- once built -- was retained on your second copy, and this allowed the system to boot due to some weird peculiarity of your particular configuration, but you didn't indicate how you moved it, so it's hard for me to say.

If you moved it and retained the kextcache, try creating a copy script that doesn't ignore this file. This is something that shouldn't be retained, especially when a backup might move to new hardware, but in your case retaining it might not do any damage, and could explain what you're seeing.
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Old 05-13-2005, 11:58 AM
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I physically moved the drive from firewire to the ATA card...
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